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Podcast: Joanna and Lucy Talk Dating
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Podcast: Joanna and Lucy Talk Dating

OMG! Are we podcasters now?! Plus, my sister shares four of her favorite things.
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Hi! Big Salad sends four emails per month; the first three feature people’s favorite finds, and the fourth is all about dating, sex, and love. While I share maaaany personal things on Cup of Jo, it feels a little too vulnerable to write about my dating journey (in real time!) on the big wide Internet, which can be easily stumbled upon by exes, neighbors, my kids’ teachers, future dates, the guy at the bakery, the list goes on. Instead, writing behind a paywall feels like “a slightly less crowded room,” as

put it. But everyone here is very, very welcome! If you’d enjoy a paid subscription, but are not in a place right now to make a payment, we are giving away 10 comped paid subscriptions every month; just email newsletter@cupofjo.com to get on the list. Thank you so much for being here.

How are you doing? I hope you are all hugging your loved ones and staying safe. This week, I spoke on the phone with my twin sister Lucy Kalanithi about her late husband, her romantic relationship since then, and a surprising date outfit. Meanwhile, I describe a funny first kiss and my sexual awakening. You can listen to our conversation in the podcast above, if you’d like! (Update: Here’s the transcript, too.)

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A few links from our chat: Here’s Lucy’s previous house makeover, and her late husband Paul’s memoir is When Breath Becomes Air. We love these unbearably cute overalls. A while back, I was lucky enough to interview B.J. Novak about his hilarious book, and you can see The Sound of Music here — always worth a re-watch!

100% on board with that.

“I just wish I could start a relationship about 12 years in, when you really don't have to try anymore, and you can just sit around together and goof on TV shows, and then go to bed without anybody trying any funny business.” Liz Lemon, 30 Rock

"If you can't say something bad about a relationship, you shouldn't say anything at all." George Costanza, Seinfeld

“If I'm going to be a mess, I'm going to be a hot mess.” Mindy Kaling, The Mindy Project


During our phone call, Lucy shared four things that bring her joy...

  1. Trader Joe’s: Two frozen things that are amazing for breakfast: the croissants and the hash browns, which are like McDonald’s rectangular hash browns.

  2. Sunglasses: Sunglasses are very good for your eyes, very good, like sunscreen.

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